We will shoot several different buckshot loads through an Improved Cylinder Choke and then through a Full Choke, and see what happens to the size of the patterns. If you don't get the pattern you want, buy or borrow a full choke and try that. In many posts pertaining to patterning buckshot, I've heard good things about patternmaster chokes, only a few owners were putting them down but far more people were shutting him/her up afterwards(maybe the shareholders. Heavy loads combined with short barrels can exhibit high muzzle pressure which in turn can distort the gas seal causing the wad release shot unevenly. ...can ruin patterns! For most home defense, in my estimation, it’s a lot of folderol over nothing. Full choke would be my first guess but I have heard that too much choke can be counterproductive with 00 Buckshot. When using buckshot in home defense, we actually do not want a large diameter spread. The Box O' Truth, #43 - Buckshot in a Rifled Shotgun Barrel, #45 - Shotgun Chokes and Buckshot - Part Two, #46 - Shotgun Slugs, Sabots, and Smooth Bore Barrels, #47 - Laminated Bullet Proof Glass - Pistols, #48 - Laminated Bullet Proof Glass - Rifles, #51 - The Effects of a Rifle Rest on Groups, #57 - The Box O' Truth Tests Infidel Body Armor Rifle Plates, #58 - Homemade X-Ray Film Bullet Proof Vests. The IC was an 8 ½ inch pattern and the Full Choke was a 7 inch pattern. ...like the PatternMaster and others of the type, defeat the purpose of Federal's Flite-Control wad. You guys were dead on your suggestion about the Modified choke and buckshot. Our NEW Ported Buckshot choke tube is designed to give you tight patterns downrange with 00 & 000 buckshot. - A Serious Discussion, #144 - Product Evaluation - The James River Armory 1903-A3, #145 - Product Evaluation - The Taurus PT 738 TCP .380 Semi Auto Pistol, #146 - The S&W Model 25-2, .45 ACP Revolver, #148 - Product Evaluation - Trulock Shotgun Choke Tubes, #149 - Reloading Inexpensive Frangible Bullets, #150 - Solving a 9mm FMJ Reloading Mystery, #151 - Building an Affordable, Accurate Rifle. Some of the newer shotguns are over bored and have no forceing cone for better patterns and a cyl or a mod choke works best with these on larger shot. I would try both with several kinds of buckshot. Go with Federal loads using the Flitecontrol wads. Shotgun choke intends to control pattern diameter at the different yards. You can't go wrong in most shotguns using a modified choke with larger buckshot sizes normally. #5 - Solving Accuracy Problems with Handloading. I have a 870Supermag that I was cleaning the other day; I thought "wow those are some long forcing cones". Full Buckshot choke tubes are just like any other choke tube you use, and the best way to determine the right choke for you is to try different choke tubes with your gun and different loads of buckshot. Deer Hunting Choke Tubes Deer Hunting With Shotguns When using shotguns for deer hunting we have two choices, either buckshot or slugs. Best Choke For Buckshot? Aroz Post subject: re: Best choke tube for #00 buck shot. And a special thanks to my buddy Vern for the photo help. So what are you thinking about! On the other hand, choke tube, and its constriction also play a dominant role in determining best patterns to arrive at the exact shot size. august. I plan on doing a midday corn stalk with my Mossberg 500 this week. We are responsible for every projectile that goes down range. Join … … The ammunition used makes more of a difference than the choke used. Buckshot New for 2016 We are introducing our new Boar Blaster™ choke tube at the 2016 SHOT Show. Inside of ten yards it hits hard. I have a Rem 11-87 supermag and I need a choke. Thanks for answering that. #155 - Tissue Paper Covered Flash Holes – Does It Matter? Or it might as well. This choke features a constriction designed specifically to optimize patterns with large and small loads alike. Dia. Aug 29, 2014 #6. Unlike standard chokes, the extended, Boar Blaster has a series of five steps leading to the parallel section. #153 - How to Develop Accurate Target Loads for a Rifle. It’s also a common choice for turkey hunters and makes plenty of appearances on the trap range. Skeet Looks like the deer are holding up in the corn that's still up around my place. A true magnum load, the Vital-Shok Buckshot offering from … Thanks for the replies. Wild Turkey Post subject: re: Best choke tube for #00 buck shot. These types of chokes are very narrow and suitable for turkey hunting. Not really any appreciable difference, but both were very tight patterns, just as expected. I have seen several shotguns shoot some loads very, very well with full choke. And 3-1/2" buckshot? I would like to hear from someone who has a similar shotgun and tried some different chokes. Probably it is not possible if the target is too far from shooter. The chokes work as expected - at least with #4 buckshot in my gun. You won't know until you try it in your shotgun. When I was setting up my Berretta 391 for buckshot to hunt coyotes the magic combo for me was the Kicks Industries Buck Kicker. The Pattern Master delivers on its claim to extremely tight patterns with larger shot. If any buckshot miss the target, they can penetrate several walls and can endanger family members or others. The Box O' Truth #2, #28 - Cowboy Pistols and The Box O' Truth, #32 - Dum-Dum Bullets and the Box O'Truth, #35 - A Load of Dimes Vs. Remington Rem choke 12 Gauge, extended bundle (Improved cylinder, modified, full) steel or lead Using an 11-87 supermag, 3.5" Winchester 00 buckshot. Only through patterning process will you find the best choke for your selected load. In each case, the Improved Cylinder is on top and the Full Chock is on the bottom of the pattern board. We will be shooting at 10 yards (30 feet) which is about as far as most of us can shoot inside a normal home. In fact, the very best buckshot pattern I've ever seen came from a 36" full choked barrel of a Marlin Goose Gun shooting Remington's 2.75" single ought load. A great deal of handwringing and debate goes into the selection of the “best” choke constriction for shooting buckshot. Moreover, They deliver a broad pattern that kills targets at short ranges. Senior Member . Cory Glauner . Cylinder (also called Open Bore, no restriction) Open choke tubes are highly recommended to use for buckshot and birdshot at a short distance or range. I ordered this book from him and loaded up some 12 gauge #1 buck loads. 12ga. In my experience with Remington 870's (nominal .730" bore), any quality extended full choke with a long parallel section and exit diameters between .700" and .690" will work well with Federal Premium 00B, and Dixie Tri-Ball Buckshot. That is an amazingly tight group with either choke. I've never patterned it with buck, but I might just have to. #191 - Is the Glock 19 the Best Concealed Carry Piece? 67 Posts #7 • Nov 10, 2008. choke for If you must use buckshot learn the limits of it and use you head. The ammunition used makes more of a difference than the choke used. Improved Cylinder #62 – The Box O’ Truth – Will a Better Target Improve Accuracy with Iron Sights? The Ported Buckshot choke tube is designed to give you tight patterns downrange with 00 & 000 buckshot. Using 12 gauge 870 super mag with 2 3/4" buckshot loads. Carlson’s Choke Tube Remington Buckshot Choke Tube – The Best for Remington Almost the same USA produced choke if we compare it with the parameters of the previous one. I'm going coyote hunting pretty soon and wondered what choke tube would be best for #00 buck. Buckshot New for 2016 We are introducing our new Boar Blaster™ choke tube at the 2016 SHOT Show. Has anyone used a pattern master choke with 3 1/2 inch buckshot? I don't think I've ever seen a "blown" pattern with a modified choke. Choke for buckshot will differ between others. Put a 4' x 4' peice of cardbord up at 60yrds and patern each choke starting with the cylinder choke . Utility Grade : Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:49 pm Posts: 1 I would like to know as well! Top . Best Choke for Buckshot. Mainly for buckshot. Medium choke usually best, buckshot is a different rule. If you want to use any other rounds get a non rifles barrel threaded for a choke. Despite limitless combinations of barrel … Choke Selection For Buckshot. © 2017 Carbon Media Group Outdoors The exact number of best shot size for turkey hunting will only come after you have tried different loads with your favorite shotgun at distinctive ranges. Hi i seen a 870 super mag pattern at a coyote target at 55yrds and the best choke with # 4 buckshot he got to pattern the best was a Rem Super Full turkey choke. I thought Full will be the best, but the more I think about it I am second guessing this. Lv 4. Lastly, let’s try some Federal Premium, 9 pellet, 00 Buck, with the excellent Flight Control Wad. Previous post, very good info, follow this and give or take a few more pertaining to putting the time and effort(not necessarily money), but money(smith) does help out with things, into finding out what your finished gun and buckshot round/s can put the pellets into a circle, square, etc. With a 12 gauge I usually end up using a full choke. If you're looking for extended range out of buckshot, ammo selection is your best bet. Buckshot to me is good out to 40 yards. Think about it. Also, if you know anyone else who has the same shotgun, find out what works for them. 24" pattern Choke Selection For Buckshot. If you are looking for real dense patterns, this is the choke you want. #194 - An Inexpensive AR-15 and an Inexpensive Red Dot Scope, #195 - How Easy is It to Shoot 30 Shots Into One Group. Contents. #162 - Do You Really Save Money By Reloading Ammunition? The Federal Flight Control Wads worked as expected, resulting in very tight patterns. The IC was 3 ¼ inches and the Full was 1 ¾ inches. As Clint Smith says, “Every round that goes down range has a lawyer tied to it.”. A lot of people say a more open choke will shoot buckshot better. I use an extra full buck kicker choke in my 3" gun and a custom full choke in my 3 1/2" gun , they are made for buckshot and deer . Call Remington customer service. #14 - The Shiloh Sharps .45-70 Long Range Exp. A .665 turkey choke, a .697 full choke .709 modified choke, and a .719 improved cylinder choke. How about any of the XX Full offerings for Turkey? Federal Premium Vital-Shok Buckshot. Today, we will try to find out. If you shoot at a paper plate at 40 yards with the #4 buck, it is shot to shreds! 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Manage Consent, #4 - Miscellaneous Rounds Meet the Box O’ Truth, #6 - Ballistic Resistant Glass Gets Tested, #19 - The Water Box O' Truth Part 3: Rifle Rounds, #23 - ExtremeShock Ammo and the Box O' Truth, #27 - Little Guns vs. Tightest groups came with the full choke. Go with Federal loads using the Flitecontrol wads. There is no "best choke" for buckshot, for a number of reasons. your test on 12 ga im cyl,and full choke was the answer for me.im new to buckshot,and chokes.this was the answer for me.thank you. Never had buckshot pattern that tight. Your email address will not be published. Even when it’s 100 degrees outside, it’s still fun to shoot stuff. Best #4 Buckshot patterns I have shot(Rem3", Win3", and Fed 3") has been with a Carlson's Turkey choke in my 11/87. So, where to Shoot a Deer with Buckshot? Designed to control buckshot loads with more consistency than ever before, buck kicker chokes are available in several constrictions that can handle shot sizes from 000 to #4 buck. Think about it. Messages: 901 Likes Received: 403. I have a custom buckshot choke for my Rem SP 10ga it is tight. Modified patterned pretty good, consistantly in 4 or 5 guns I have shot over the years with all buckshot sizes out to 40 yards or so, except #4 buck. For instance, when shooting birdshot at birds in flight, it can be helpful to have a slightly larger pattern diameter to help the shooter hit a flying bird. 18 pellets. This load has 9 pellets, with no shot cup or buffer material. My 18" 870 that had the forcing cone done when the choke tube was installed at Pattern Master would put 30-40% of the big pellets into a GI E type silhouette at a measured 100 yards regularly. "Instead of a $100 tube, spend something less on a lengthened forcing cone from a good smith." Joined: Aug 9, 2010 Messages: 3,445 Location: Ozark Mountains of Arkansas. The IC pattern was 7 inches wide and the Full was 6 inches wide. Our NEW Ported Buckshot choke tube is designed to give you tight patterns downrange with 00 & 000 buckshot. Maximum ranges in most home defense situations are better measured in feet than yards. I've got a couple of really thick places that I want to hunt and buckshot really is the best thing to use. Other types of chokes include; Discussion in 'Michigan Whitetail Deer Hunting' started by Polkahero, Nov 13, 2011. Buckshot While there are many different sizes of buckshot I consider two sizes “00 and 000” adequate for use in deer hunting. What is the typical choke tube one would use to shoot buckshot? Deer and Hog Hunting Deer and Hog Hunting With Shotguns When using shotguns for deer or hog hunting we have two choices, either buckshot or slugs. Thanks Cory Glauner is a hunter, archer, bowfisher and writer. Rifled barrels on shotguns are for shooting sabot slugs. At close range it is a great choice. Kicks is definitely in that camp. In many posts pertaining to patterning buckshot, I've heard good things about patternmaster chokes, only a few owners were putting them down but far more people were shutting him/her up afterwards(maybe the shareholders). This choke is ported to reduce recoil and muzzle jump that tend to go hand in hand with these large loads. They were a bitch to make but at 40 yes it would put 9 pellets into a 12″ circle with the rest going into a 30″ circle. I hunt deer with a full choke using buckshot, because most of the time, full choke will deliver the tightest pattern at … In patterning a number of 12 ga shotguns using the method above, to me the best overall shell to me is the 3" #1 buckshot load (24 pellets), with the 2 3/4" #1 buck as second. The three inch loads have about 50% more total pellets and that seems to translate into a linear 50% more pellets inside the box. For smaller shot sizes like #1 and #4 buck, we recommend the XX Full. Your input would be helpful. 4 years ago. Best Choke for Slugs and Buckshot. I thought about trying a Pattern Master but hate to spend 100 bucks on a choke when I could get same results with a cheaper one. Modified shotgun chokes split the difference. Not only did the Low Recoil Remington shoot a very tight pattern, but the recoil was noticeably lighter on the shoulder. Actually, most in-home encounters will usually be at closer distances than this. My main use for the gun is hunting coyote and deer. coyote choke on a 11-87 12ga. While performing well with all types of buckshot, copper plated pellets will deliver the best results. #152 - Does Polishing Media in Flash Holes Affect Accuracy? Pertinence. 1.40050 Carlsons rifled choke tubes, Beretta 12 Gauge; 2. 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Extra Full (.045 inch constriction) If you thought full was as full as it gets, you’re wrong. Water was pouring out of me like a waterfall. I would like to hear from someone who has a similar shotgun and tried some different chokes. REALLY?......Do you live in Jurassic Park? Polkahero. #156 - The M-1 Carbine Is Not Accurate At 100 Yards, #157 - A Super Accurate .22 Rifle, The Savage Mark II BSEV, #159 - The 2013 NRA Annual Meeting in Houston, #160 - Product Evaluation - The MagnetoSpeed Chronograph, #161 - Using Full Wadcutters for Better Scoring in Target Competition. The only choke with more constrictions than a full choke is the super-full/extra-full. was going to most likely be using #9 buck shot. I've shot buckshot through a turkey choke. Thank You. 0 2. liverman. Maximum ranges in most home defense situations are better measured in feet than yards. Our buckshot chokes are recommended based on the pellet size that you wish to use. For 000 and 00 buck, we recommend the X Full. Today I will be using my Remington Special Field 1100 shotgun. I thought about trying a Pattern Master but hate to spend 100 bucks on a choke when I could get same results with a cheaper one. This slows the wad ever so slightly, so that it doesn’t negatively affect the pattern. Concerning the aforementioned Boar Blaster choke tube, it’s optimized for use with 00 and 000 buckshot. Remington BuckShot Choke Tubes. The high grade ammo with IC choke placed a greater percentage of its pellets inside the 12" box than did the economy buckshot with full choke. Didn't have a 3.5" gun and so never tried the Roman candle shells. Thanks June 19, 2011, 05:44 AM #2: PawPaw. The problem it is hasnt seen as much development as 00 buck so the pattern at longer range isnt that great. Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: The Dave McCracken Memorial Shotgun Forum, I've never pulled the trigger on a 3.5 inch. Some folks, including my uncle, have had really good results using a full choke and #1's and 4's. Pattern your gun with whichever choke you choose with different size buckshot or the other option is to buy a handful of chokes with a particular buckshot size you feel you'd like to try. AND, all buckshot is not the same.
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